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News & Announcements => News for Broadbandnuts & DSLnuts => Topic started by: dannjr on April 07, 2014, 12:12:26 am

Title: AT&T Killed IPv6.. No one should be happy...
Post by: dannjr on April 07, 2014, 12:12:26 am
AT&T Why? Did they Kill Internet Protocol version six...

AT&T is blocking Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6)
Did they break it.. They advertise the ability to use and have info on there websites..
Hundreds of Thousands of Website Developers use it and have it... This Include Google and OpenDNS and even we have it on our other business connections. It even helps 4G be a little faster...
If you have AT&T and a XBOX One.. Good luck its not getting IPv6 now
If you have AT&T and a Cell Service.. Good luck its not getting IPv6 now
If you have AT&T and a Internet TV.. Good luck its not getting IPv6 now
This can also slow it up and in some cases bandwidth on Cell phones will be higher use.

According to the Hundreds to thousands of Developers they broke there network again by putting out a bad update to there network.. I tend to believe that.. Others say there preparing to sell IPv6 IP space. Comcast IPv6 works and others that need it can get a Tunnel network from Sixx or my favorite Hurricane Electric only because they have a certification program we enjoy. AND they have been doing it for years.. AT&T might be able to fix there problem if they pick up the phone to HE.net

Years ago.. WELL not that many years.. We got a Internet Business connection from AT&T and we were assured by several people at AT&T that when we need it IPv6 would be available.. AND was...
Recently: We were approached by a non profit to help with some special needs and at the time we would have been able to fit there needs using IPv6 to assign encrypted connections to there users.. As of a couple weeks ago this has been put on hold Because AT&T broke it.. No AT&T IPv6.. (http://No AT&T IPv6..)
We called AT&T and got the answer NO we cant open IPv6 for you and can't...
We dont Need IPv6 protocol 41 from AT&T just open the Protocol

It seems every-time we turn around AT&T either blocks something or breaks it.. We even heard they say its because of security... Grant it, there is a learning curve with IPv6 but we already knew that and control the services we open.. AND I know AT&T can control abuse by slowing up connections, Sending a email or disabling a customer till the abuse is fixed.. Just ask any user of a Cell phone who has Tethered a computer to use internet through there cell phone.
Internet is faster with IPv6 as long as Administrators set it right.. AND for the most part its safer then Internet protocol (TCP/IPv4) All your browsers and new Operating systems since Windows XP sp2 and Linux to mention just two support IPv6.. Yeah even Apple

Microsoft had some issues with IPv6 on the New Xbox and fixed what they needed.. If you have a wireless modem/router thats to old you might have to upgrade your router to deal with IPv6 This is part of the learning curve.. Wireless on older versions with IPv6 may lock up.
This might be AT&T's problem I'm not sure on that.. We have the Xbox one and disabled v6 because it was part of the learning curve. ANd we replaced the one Wireless router and had no problems with the AT&T router on the wireless with Xbox one. (when IPv6 was working)

I wonder how Microsoft feels about AT&T blocking IPv6(secret partner of U-verse development)

I know theirs allot more to do with this But common AT&T your supporting businesses that don't want to be told how to do business for to much longer.. Cost is one thing breaking our Development and blocking Learning is another.. The future is our Kids and they want to learn network development as well.
 
Even on one of the AT&T forums A user posted a link to file complaints to the FCC in how there blocking our business Tunnels, Tracert and a few other items.. You can search the Web on how AT&T broke DNS and how they wanted to block FaceTime and more.. Verizon don't get me started

If you want to keep the Internet in the open. The way its supposed to be. Not telling us what we can or cant have Please file a complaint with the FCC. Even the FCC has open rules for the Internet.

Heres the FCC Rules on a open Internet. Look around they even have a link to test your IPV6 capabilitys
http://www.fcc.gov/openinternet  (http://www.fcc.gov/openinternet) 

If you Feel we need to file a complaint please feel free to a open discussion here and file your complaint here
http://www.fcc.gov/complaints (http://www.fcc.gov/complaints)
Fill out the online form under Broadband, Billing/Service/Availability.

A large portion of the form is dedicated to billing disputes, so I left those blank and filled in item (5) with some text about how AT&T's behavior is a clear violation of the "no blocking" open Internet rules, as set forth here:

This is a link on AT&T's own website
https://forums.att.com/t5/Residential-Gateway/IPv6-Tunnels-broken-yet-again-this-time-on-the-NVG589-modem/td-p/3896665 (https://forums.att.com/t5/Residential-Gateway/IPv6-Tunnels-broken-yet-again-this-time-on-the-NVG589-modem/td-p/3896665)

There's other complaints going on and AT&T isn't the only one getting this
Comcast, Cell phone companies and more.. But its been real enlightening. The recent amount of complaints over IPv6 with AT&T... Considering Europe has been IPv6 enabled for 10 years and its being used more and more since 2005 here

Did I mentioned how AT&T is blocking Tracert.. Its a tool for tracing where a IP is coming from its one of the tools we can use to find and block a bad guy temporarily to keep our connections running.. They wont allow this from our desktops or with our commercial routers behind there equipment.. This is just to name problems AT&T is having.
Don't get me started on how bad DNS is.. All companies are having that problem...

To be fair AT&T has done a good job with us.. But its not this hard and some things need to change
Opening protocol 41 is one that needs to happen fast

Here's the FCC thought on IPv6 and Written VERY WELL
https://www.fcc.gov/guides/internet-protocol-version-6-ipv6-consumers (https://www.fcc.gov/guides/internet-protocol-version-6-ipv6-consumers)
We're 100% ready are you..? Remember that when your watching TV over the internet  ;D
But one of the big problems. Most people are scared of change and IPv6 makes life more secure and AT&T probably needs to learn more about empty address segments and UDP packets to no place

Imagine not being able to get to your bank online or Use your Internet ready TV or worse

Thank you
Title: Re: AT&T Killed IPv6.. No one should be happy...
Post by: dannjr on April 22, 2014, 11:00:00 am
I may have exaggerated a touch. But the truth of the matter.
Business owners have gone through the trouble to upgrade there systems at no small cost.
They have enabled websites and email servers that work with IPv6

AT&T called us yesterday to find out why we are unhappy.
The person on the phone had no clue as to what protocol 41 was and even less information on IPv6.
I blame AT&T for not training there phone support.
We spent a little over an hour on the phone and I could here the supervisor behind her
I can't fault the employee's and I probably can't fault the tech's at AT&T
We were told protocol 41 was not available after going through a explanation of what it was...(not port 41)
We were also told that when IPv6 was available to all the users it was just a test of the system and they aren't ready for it..
We were also told IPv6 may be ready by the end of the year but not to hold our breath...

Other then the IPv6 issue our connection has been very solid. I can't complain that way.. But we have invested allot of time with this and we maybe looking at our options to get a connection that will allow IPv6 Tunnels.
Can you here me now AT&T